An Issue That Shouldn’t Arise In Polite Society

“Teach children to be polite and courteous in the home, and, when he grows up, he will never be able to edge his car onto a freeway.” -Unknown

One of the podcasts I’ve been listening to is Grammar Girl, a brief podcast covering, obviously, grammar topics. She is part of a website called Quick and Dirty Tips which offers a number of podcasts on a variety of subjects. As I was listening to one of her archives, she mentioned that the most recent Mister Manners podcast covers responding to catcalling. I checked it out.

That was a mistake. Woman Walking Down The Street

The first and most fundamental problem with Mister Manners’ response is that he presumes that catcalling is behavior akin to poor dining manners or proper elevator etiquette. It’s not. I doubt Mister Manners would write a column addressing the proper way to respond to a carjacking. You cannot possibly offer suggestions for the polite way to address catcalling because any presumption of polite behavior goes right out the goddamn window when you sexually harass someone.

Mister Manners suggest you ignore the catcall or respond by saying “I have to tell you that your catcalls and whistles make me feel very uncomfortable. If you could please stop I would appreciate it very much.” That is, he points out, unless you find this lewd and disrespectful behavior complimentary.

Mister Manners then addresses the question “Should I catcall?” The answer should be an unequivocal “NO.” Instead, he claims “In general, a catcall or whistle is not an appropriate way to pay someone a compliment.” He goes on to suggest that “if you’re driving and feel the urge to compliment someone as you pass by, rather than whistling you might consider saying something as easy as, “You’re beautiful” (to either a man or woman), as you pass by.” I’m not sure where this NEED is to pay compliments to strangers comes from. You do not NEED to compliment anyone; you want to.

Mister Manners, you are presuming that people who catcall are attempting to pay compliment. They aren’t. Ezra Klein gets it. He describes catcalling as “…a way of covering insecurity, of asserting your existence by underscoring your physical dominance . It’s utterly disgusting.” Catcalling, yelling “You’re beautiful” out of a car window, whistling, whatever – is not a stranger offering you a compliment. It is a person trying to wrestle your control of a situation away. It is a selfish person who demands that you grant them your attention. It is the disgusting objectification of a human being.

If I had an advice column, I’d suggest that a solid kick in the nuts is what should be the only legally, morally, and socially acceptable response to catcalling. If you shout something obscene at me or whistle at me while I walk past, I should be able to turn around, walk up to you, and kick you squarely in the goddamn testicles.

  • John

    I agree with your article but I would like to remind people that it’s not only men doing the calling.  I’ve had several women do the same.  All I ask is that I have the same right to turn around and kick the woman in her junk too. 

  • https://profiles.google.com/dmfarley dmf

     And I would like to remind people that all dudes aren’t as retarded as this guy.

  • John

    Nice word “retarded”.  You talk like a 9 year old, are you in politics?  My point, however crass it was, is that this if not only a male/female issue.  I consider it a people/people issue,  I have 2 girls/2 boys and we have taught all of them to respect everyone equally and not based on their sex or race (Although my daughters do know where the nuts are located and how to hit them just right).  Either way it’s rude and shouldn’t be tolerated from anyone, much like calling someone retarded.  Enjoy your day.

  • http://neamhspleachas.com Molly Rene

    Oh shit, I totally forgot about the menz. Thanks for reminding me.

  • https://profiles.google.com/dmfarley dmf

     hang on, lemme get this straight.

    subsequent to a comment wherein you advocated being able to kick people in the junk, you are attempting to call me out from the moral high ground, for calling you “retarded”?

    i don’t think i could have made my point any better. so i thank you.

    now, perhaps you have a discussion thread about the recovery efforts in the wake of Japan’s recent earthquake to break in to, to remind people that Haiti has earthquakes too?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=507139574 Effie Wkd

    Jeez, Molly.  In a patriarchal world  where even the dominant international language is built around male privilege, how could you forget to account for the awesome power of Anecdotal Evidence?  You especially forgot about Anecdotal Evidence that doesn’t even begin to contradict the actual point of your post!  For shame, Molly.  For shame.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=507139574 Effie Wkd

    Father-of-the-year is right about the “retarded” comment.  Most developmentally disabled kids I’ve worked with were nowhere near as self-righteous, condescending or arrogant as this guy comes across as being.  Not a fair comparison at all. 

  • John

    dmf, keep the insults coming… I think you’re angry with your life and need more love. 

     

  • https://profiles.google.com/dmfarley dmf

    And I think you may work for Standard & Poors.

  • John

    LOL, you got me.  And we deserved the downgrade. 

  • https://profiles.google.com/dmfarley dmf

     sorry chief, no one cares what you think about that. they key insinuation of that remark was the 2 trillion dollar miscalculation.

    miscalculation.



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